thanks for the replies, im not bothered about the labour in taking it apart because my labour is free! i have tried the seal conditioner there are a few on the market forte is the most expensive it maybe worked but i cant tell really. it leaks worst when you have been for a run and stop suddenly if you mooch along at 30 then park up its not bad at all. i am going on holiday in a couple weeks i think i will do it before then, i know what to buy now when i go to my dealer, thanks!